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Message posted by mosa on January 30 2006 at 7:28 am - IP Logged
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Discover Islam

What is Islam and who are Muslims?



Islam simply means to achieve peace - peace with God, peace with oneself, and peace with the creations of God - through wholly giving oneself God and accepting His guidance.

Islam is not a new faith. Muslims believe that it is the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people. For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is not just a personal religion, but a complete way of life.
Muslims come from all races, nationalities and cultures across the globe. They have varied languages, foods, dress, and customs; even the way they practice Islam may differ. Yet they all consider themselves to be Muslim.

Islam is a qualitative term - the quality of accepting God's supreme authority above one's own. As such, being a Muslim does not mean having to give up one's culture or traditions; rather it means adopting the simple and logical principles of Islam to better one's life and attain peace.

Less than 15% of Muslims live the Arab world; a fifth are found in Sub-Saharan Africa; and the world's largest Muslim community is in Indonesia. Substantial parts of Asia, and almost all the Central Asian republics, are Muslim. Significant Muslim minorities are found in China, India, Russia, Europe, North America and South America.

What do Muslims believe?

Muslims believe in the One, Unique, Incomparable, Merciful God - the Sole Creator, Sustainer and Cherisher of the Universe; in the Angels created by Him; in the prophets through whom His revelations were brought to humankind; in the Day of Judgment, and in individual accountability for actions; in God's complete authority over destiny, be it good or bad and in life after death.

Muslims believe that God sent His messengers and prophets to all people. Biblical prophets mentioned in the Qur'an include: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Job, Ezekiel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonah, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, Elijah, Elisha, David, Solomon, Zechariah, John the Baptist, and Jesus; peace be upon them all.

God's final message to humanity was revealed to the last prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him), through the Archangel Gabriel. It confirmed and finalized all previous revelations that were sent to humankind through God's messengers.

One becomes a Muslim by believing and proclaiming that, "There is no deity except God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God." By this declaration the believer announces his or her faith in all of God's messengers, and in the scriptures revealed to them.

Who is Allah?

Allah is the proper Arabic name for God. Muslims believe in and worship the same One God that the Jews and Christians worship. Allah says in the Qur'an:

"And do not debate with the People of the Book, unless in the best of manners, but not with those who are unjust, and say: "We believe in the Revelation that has come down to us and in that which has come down to you; Our God and your God is One, and to Him do we wholly give ourselves." (Qur'an 29:46)

Allah is a unique term with no plural an no gender. It predates Muhammad and was also used in the form of El, Elah or Elohim by David, Moses, Jesus and other messengers of God, peace be upon them all.

"He is God, the One that there is no deity but He; the Knower of the unseen and the apparent; He is the Source of All Mercy, the Merciful.

He is God, the One that there is no deity but He; the King, the Holy, the Source of All Peace, the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver, the Mighty, the Compeller, the Majestic; Glory to God, beyond their associations (of partners with Him)!

He is God, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. To Him belong the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the Mighty, the Wise." (Qur'an 59:22-24)


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Mosa,

Welcome to BM, it's good to have a new face in here, even if you are of a different faith, if you are.

A couple of queries on your post. You said:

Islam is not a new faith.

Apart from the fact that it was different to anything else around when it first came out, that is one reason why it was able to unite the arab tribes who followed the faith. before that, all their different gods and faiths had split them.

Apart from that, if it is not a new faith, why do Muslims fear other faiths being in their land and converting them then. If it is the same faith as Judaism and Christianity, the other peoples of the book, there would be no reason for this restriction.

rather it means adopting the simple and logical principles of Islam to better one's life and attain peace.
And do those who follow it gain a better life and have peace? Do you have a couple of examples of people who have followed the faith and gained a better life and peace as a result of it?

And do not debate with the People of the Book, unless in the best of manners, but not with those who are unjust, and say: "We believe in the Revelation that has come down to us and in that which has come down to you;

How does this explain the weekends bombings of Churches in Iraq? And the recent statements from Iran and Palestine that the country of Israel will be no more?

What did Allah do to get rid of the sin of his people?

That should be enough to be going on with for now. Peace and blessing be with you.


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Mosa - How is man's sin atoned for under Islamic teaching?

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Message posted by mosa on January 31 2006 at 11:43 am - IP Logged
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 Dear  :SteveG and grumpy58

i advice each to read a new topic :   An Open Speech To the American Nation

 

 


Message posted by SteveG on January 31 2006 at 11:44 am - IP Logged
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Why?

And it's ok, I've just found out what you were talking about. I read the question before the topic arrived.


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Quote: Originally posted by mosa on January 30 2006

Discover Islam

What is Islam and who are Muslims?



Islam simply means to achieve peace(no it doesn't it means submission to God) - peace with God, peace with oneself, and peace with the creations of God - through wholly giving oneself God and accepting His guidance.
 
You mention God many times but you don't believe in God because you don't haven't Jesus Christ as LORD and your Personal Savio,r He's not living in you. Just as Christians do. You don't believe what we believe. You believe that Jesus was a good teacher and a prophet of God. Those two are true but Jesus was God in the flesh when He came as God the Son, born as a baby. You accept your teachings(in which your a slave to good works) we accept ours "the just shall live by faith".

Islam is not a new faith. Muslims believe that it is the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people.(Your prophet  received revelation supposely from God, the relevation is the Bible and the Word of God is Jesus Christ Himself. Its final, there's no more to add to it, it already has been written).
 
For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is not just a personal religion, but a complete way of life.
Muslims come from all races, nationalities and cultures across the globe. They have varied languages, foods, dress, and customs; even the way they practice Islam may differ. Yet they all consider themselves to be Muslim.

Islam is a qualitative term - the quality of accepting God's supreme authority above one's own. As such, being a Muslim does not mean having to give up one's culture or traditions; rather it means adopting the simple and logical principles of Islam to better one's life and attain peace.
 
We Christians are free from religion because we have a relationship with Jesus Christ Himself in the Holy Spirit.

Less than 15% of Muslims live the Arab world; a fifth are found in Sub-Saharan Africa; and the world's largest Muslim community is in Indonesia. Substantial parts of Asia, and almost all the Central Asian republics, are Muslim. Significant Muslim minorities are found in China, India, Russia, Europe, North America and South America.

What do Muslims believe?

Muslims believe in the One, Unique, Incomparable, Merciful God - the Sole Creator, Sustainer and Cherisher of the Universe; in the Angels created by Him; in the prophets through whom His revelations were brought to humankind; in the Day of Judgment, and in individual accountability for actions; in God's complete authority over destiny, be it good or bad and in life after death.
 
By your paragrapth you believe this:
 
1. You believe there's one God.
 
We also believe in one God(Deut. 6:4) but Jesus is God in Christianity.
 
2. You believe in the minor and major prophets of OT.
 
We also believe in the Prophets and Psalms and they spoke about Jesus Christ place of birth, place where He preached and taught the Gospel, sufferings, rejections, crucifixation, death and ascendation to the Father.
 
3. You believe in the Day of Judgement
 
We also believe in the Day of Judgement according to the Scriptures. We believe that Jesus will judge those living and are not believers when He returns again for their sins.
 
4. You believe that God is Sovereignty
 
We also believe that God is Ruler of everything and His will be fulfilled. Even Satan and demons believe that God is Sovereign!
 
5. You believe we will be judged according to what we have done.
 
We believe that Jesus will judge Christians for what they have done not in the past but when they die. Not for sins but to reward each believer.
 
6. You believe in heaven and hell.
 
You believe differently than what Christianity teaches. Here's what I've studied from Islam's Heaven: Those who enter the Garden have to first cross a bridge and if they fall they will not enter. Those good make it through, will have good and bad works in their hands and if their good works out weight there bad they will enter the Garden to enjoy the pleasures: Drink wine, sex with woman of their choice. Islam's Hell: Those will walk on a bridge and will be poured on on their heads boiling water over and over again. And with a huge chain linked to others all will suffer the lava all over their bodies. And after the bodies are burned, they will be exchanged for new bodies.


Muslims believe that God sent His messengers and prophets to all people. Biblical prophets mentioned in the Qur'an include: Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Job, Ezekiel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonah, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, Elijah, Elisha, David, Solomon, Zechariah, John the Baptist, and Jesus; peace be upon them all.


God's final message to humanity was revealed to the last prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him), through the Archangel Gabriel. It confirmed and finalized all previous revelations(the first and final relevation was God in the form of Jesus Christ, that was the only relevation to mankind) that were sent to humankind through God's messengers.

One becomes a Muslim by believing and proclaiming that, "There is no deity except God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God."
 
We believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ in the Godhead, in which you don't believe.
 
By this declaration the believer announces his or her faith in all of God's messengers, and in the scriptures revealed to them.

Who is Allah?

Allah is the proper Arabic name for God. Muslims believe in and worship the same One God(no you don't, according to 1 John 2:23 "Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also" You don't believe that Jesus Christ got crucified on the cross it says in one of your Suras and that God never had a Son) that the Jews and Christians worship. Allah says in the Qur'an:

"And do not debate with the People of the Book(Christians and Jews), unless in the best of manners, but not with those who are unjust, and say: "We believe in the Revelation that has come down to us and in that which has come down to you; Our God and your God is One, and to Him do we wholly give ourselves." (Qur'an 29:46)

Allah is a unique term with no plural an no gender. It predates Muhammad and was also used in the form of El, Elah or Elohim by David, Moses, Jesus and other messengers of God, peace be upon them all.


"He is God, the One that there is no deity but He; the Knower of the unseen and the apparent; He is the Source of All Mercy, the Merciful.

He is God, the One that there is no deity but He; the King, the Holy, the Source of All Peace, the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver, the Mighty, the Compeller, the Majestic; Glory to God, beyond their associations (of partners with Him)!
 
No deity? Explain Colossians 2:9? "For in Him(Jesus Christ) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily"

He is God, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. To Him belong the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the Mighty, the Wise." (Qur'an 59:22-24)




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Message posted by mosa on February 03 2006 at 11:16 am - IP Logged
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 i invite all to read this topic :
Islam: Misunderstood throughout the World

 thanks

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Nearly as bad as christians bombing abortion clinics wouldn't you say Grumpy?

Did you know that there was a second and larger Muslim demonstration held on Saturday, no nasty signs, no violence, as far as I know, no threats.


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http://www.nypost.com/seven/09292006/news/regionalnews/anti_w__oros__i_quit_politics_regionalnews_maggie_haberman.htm

Evidently, hispanics are converting to Islam with some regularity. Wow!



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